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Sun Nov 18, 2018 6:09 pm

So Dutch going crazy, that was fun to watch. The scorned Molly, I thought she was the rat. Maybe I missed a conversation or two there. Micah, the douche, I wanted to leave his ass in Strawberry at the start of the game. Lenny, Kieran, Hosea...

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Mon Nov 19, 2018 1:12 am

It emotionally drained me in all honesty. When I was spurring Goldie to go and couldn't figure out why he wasn't moving, then he went down...that was rough. To me I loved playing the Arthur character more than JM. So the end of chapter 6 was tough. I'm not sure a video game has ever made me sad lol. Just finished the epilogue 2 last night, and while still fun, it's just not the same playing as JM. But I digress. Probably my favorite story ever told in a video game.
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 4:36 am

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It emotionally drained me in all honesty. When I was spurring Goldie to go and couldn't figure out why he wasn't moving, then he went down...that was rough. To me I loved playing the Arthur character more than JM. So the end of chapter 6 was tough. I'm not sure a video game has ever made me sad lol. Just finished the epilogue 2 last night, and while still fun, it's just not the same playing as JM. But I digress. Probably my favorite story ever told in a video game.
So you got to see the special horse cutscene. That's cool. That part rocked me a little as well. Did you go back for the money or help John? I watched all the endings after finally dealing with Micah. The dishonorable ending and the going back for the money ending left a sour taste in my mouth.

Also it's worth noting, if you go back to collect Micah's pistol, his body is left frozen where he fell. I found it nice but no where near as satisfying as the thought of beating the life outta him as Aurthur would have been
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Mon Nov 19, 2018 9:22 pm

I chose to help John. I haven't watched the alternate endings yet but plan on doing so. I was so mad that in the Micah gunfight it wouldn't let me killed him. I failed the mission about 6 times because I kept shooting him and Dutch. I shot Dutch right in the left eye about 3 different times. It was satisfying.
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:25 pm

I shot Dutch several times myself. Worth it.

My feelings are much the same as you guys, I am less disappointed in the post Arthur game than I expected. The way it fills in the gap between new and old is, I think, well done.

I'd love the option to recover Arthur somehow, though it wouldn't make since in the story. I don't want a Zombi version either, though I'd play that as well. Wish I could get Buel back, the horse you get of the one legged man.

The thing that stands out to me the most, is that the game is intentionally slow passed at times, and I loved every second of it anyway. My favorite screen shot is Arthur laying in the sunset, maybe it's the associated emotions of the scene.
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Tue Nov 20, 2018 2:55 pm

I didn't mind Dutch in this game. Watching him transform from enigmatic leader to straight up sociopath was cool and a great piece of story telling. I thought he kinda fell flat in the epilogue but oh well.

Really thought there could have been a better way to off Micah than Dutch taking a cheap shot on him then giving him 6 dead eye shots to the nuts. Would have liked to beat the life out of him.

It would be nice to have the option to revert to right before Aurthur goes to the doctor but going in/through Blackwater wouldn't make sense.
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:52 am

I have some questions....
In what chapter and mission will my horse die? This is silly but I'd like to use a different horse when that happens. That way I won't be too devastated. :P
Would it be best if I were to complete as much of side missions, treasure hunting, bounty hunting, legendary beast hunting etc before completing the campaign story? I'd like to do all those as Arthur so when would be the best time to do all the above before Arthur is gone?

I'm at chapter 4 by the way, just about to meet Dutch and gang at the bayou and getting on the boat to kill Bronte.
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:22 am

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Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:52 am
I have some questions....
In what chapter and mission will my horse die? This is silly but I'd like to use a different horse when that happens. That way I won't be too devastated. :P
Would it be best if I were to complete as much of side missions, treasure hunting, bounty hunting, legendary beast hunting etc before completing the campaign story? I'd like to do all those as Arthur so when would be the best time to do all the above before Arthur is gone?

I'm at chapter 4 by the way, just about to meet Dutch and gang at the bayou and getting on the boat to kill Bronte.
Stop. You are on the final mission of chapter 4

After Aurthur gets stick and falls off his horse, I think it's chapter 6, you are approaching the end. Once Aurthurs story is over, you start fresh as John, so horse choice doesn't matter. I suggest using the horse you spent the most time with, there's a touching cutscene.

The only things that carry over are your inventory and guns. You get a new horse and eventually more money than you need.

There are some missions that close off once you become John but I can't remember which ones. The final Master Huntsman challenge (legendary cougar), legendary Pronghorn and 2 legendary fish are only accessable to John as they are in the New Austin area. The "true love" quest line with the Gray/Braithwaite lovers is one that needs to be done as Aurthur that I know of for sure. I think the end of the Dowes family story, (from Money Lending and Other Sins, the man that gets Aurthur sick) is for Aurthur only as well. Things like satchel crafting or legendary hunts can still be done as John. In fact, if you don't craft all the satchels as Aurthur, you can just buy them from the fence as John.

My best opinion for you, make a second save. Do your side missions before advancing. Chapter 5 is different to avoid spoilers. Personally, once I got to chapter 6 I was too wrapped up in the story to care about side missions, but I'm a huge fan of good story telling so I had to see it through at that point.

I don't remember how many main missions are after the "sick point" but the one to watch out for is Sadie Adler waiting for you in Saint Denis. I'd doesn't change the game much except you only get half the benefit from food and Aurthur has a NASTY cough.

Hope this was enough of an info dumpπŸ˜‰
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Fri Nov 23, 2018 2:09 pm

10DollaOffCupon wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 23, 2018 8:22 am
GrouchyGran wrote: ↑
Fri Nov 23, 2018 5:52 am
I have some questions....
In what chapter and mission will my horse die? This is silly but I'd like to use a different horse when that happens. That way I won't be too devastated. :P
Would it be best if I were to complete as much of side missions, treasure hunting, bounty hunting, legendary beast hunting etc before completing the campaign story? I'd like to do all those as Arthur so when would be the best time to do all the above before Arthur is gone?

I'm at chapter 4 by the way, just about to meet Dutch and gang at the bayou and getting on the boat to kill Bronte.
Stop. You are on the final mission of chapter 4

After Aurthur gets stick and falls off his horse, I think it's chapter 6, you are approaching the end. Once Aurthurs story is over, you start fresh as John, so horse choice doesn't matter. I suggest using the horse you spent the most time with, there's a touching cutscene.

The only things that carry over are your inventory and guns. You get a new horse and eventually more money than you need.

There are some missions that close off once you become John but I can't remember which ones. The final Master Huntsman challenge (legendary cougar), legendary Pronghorn and 2 legendary fish are only accessable to John as they are in the New Austin area. The "true love" quest line with the Gray/Braithwaite lovers is one that needs to be done as Aurthur that I know of for sure. I think the end of the Dowes family story, (from Money Lending and Other Sins, the man that gets Aurthur sick) is for Aurthur only as well. Things like satchel crafting or legendary hunts can still be done as John. In fact, if you don't craft all the satchels as Aurthur, you can just buy them from the fence as John.

My best opinion for you, make a second save. Do your side missions before advancing. Chapter 5 is different to avoid spoilers. Personally, once I got to chapter 6 I was too wrapped up in the story to care about side missions, but I'm a huge fan of good story telling so I had to see it through at that point.

I don't remember how many main missions are after the "sick point" but the one to watch out for is Sadie Adler waiting for you in Saint Denis. I'd doesn't change the game much except you only get half the benefit from food and Aurthur has a NASTY cough.

Hope this was enough of an info dumpπŸ˜‰
Those are very helpful info, thanks for your input! :D
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